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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 14:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Kahrek Laume
With the nerf to damps (See many lachesis / arazu around?) ECM boats are now the FoTM and the default iwin for small gang warfare, ECCM is soon to become a necessary item. Even with ECCM unless your sensor strength hits the 40's you are going to be prettymuch permajammed.
or just get a single ship to get his drones on the falcon and keep making it warp out/kill it.
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Celador Nane
Originally by: Aadi Grox
Originally by: Kahrek Laume
With the nerf to damps (See many lachesis / arazu around?) ECM boats are now the FoTM and the default iwin for small gang warfare, ECCM is soon to become a necessary item. Even with ECCM unless your sensor strength hits the 40's you are going to be prettymuch permajammed.
or just get a single ship to get his drones on the falcon and keep making it warp out/kill it.
Your drones go 230km?... nice....
I know you probably don't get out in 0.0 too much, but there are nanoships like the ishtar which go fast, meaning they can travel a good distance then have their drones attack. If the falcon cloaks/warps out, you have successfully taken it out of the fight.
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Celador Nane
all real falcon flyers bookmark every gate they come across & have many jamming points
your typical 0.0 roaming gang...
FC: alright, everyone jump on contact
falcon pilot: WAIT!!!!
FC: what
falcon pilot: give me a minute or 2 to make a jamming bm
FC: *facepalm*
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 14:40:00 -
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nobody is making you fight at choke point gates, a decent nanofag gang will **** up a falcon anyway
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Celador Nane
Any decent camp also has raipers & huggins to kill said ergo nanogangs
With falcon support also, try catching 2 or 3 falcons with multiple bookmarks who warp between n cloak, uncloak jamm etc..
Harder than it sounds... trust me
then avoid that fight if you can't kill it, it isn't a matter of falcons/rapiers being overpowered, it is a good gatecamp.
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Minmatar mafia loves the falcon
not as much as the xl booster polycarbed drake
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Everyone Dies
ccp should really reverse the boost to falcons.
ecm is making this game really lame.
yeah, the rook is pretty much only for poor people now
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shar'Tuk TheHated
Hey, I have a great idea! Lets make all the ships made for the role ECM useless! 
*I'm for buffing damp boats btw, they need a buff so you people ***** about them as well since its not fair using ewar!*
1) rook
2) I flew falcons before the buff, they were fine
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Aadi Grox on 07/05/2008 23:00:53
Edited by: Aadi Grox on 07/05/2008 23:00:44
Originally by: Amastat
Edited by: Amastat on 07/05/2008 22:53:08
I notice its mostly minnie players whining, I don't blame them though, Minmatar have the worst sensor strengths in the game.
A lot of minnies whine about the idea of a speed nerf though because "It's like the only thing we got going for us". Perhaps you all should think about your own whiny feelings about speed when you cry for another ECM nerf - you cannot deny how worthless the Caldari fleet would be in PvP once that happens.
In other words, if you can't live with the idea of speed nerfs, you have no right demanding everything else but your nanohacs be nerfed.
Actually - it may be more simple if CCP just beat the **** out of ECM and nanos/od's with the nerf bat. Let's get them to do that, or will the cry-much back down now? 
No - REALLY, I mean it. If you guys can live without a speed nerfaggedon, by ALL MEANS - the Caldari can live with another ECM nerfaggedon. Try me...
lollin at you trying to have ideas, it is so cute
Originally by: Golden Helmet
First they whined about jammers, and CCP nerfed them. Then they whined about nos, and CCP made nos a useless waste of space fit only for refining. Then they whined about damps, and CCP nerfed them. Now their whining about jammers again. Do I see a pattern here?
you forgot the part where they buffed the falcon when it really didn't deserve a buff
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.07 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Aadi Grox on 07/05/2008 23:43:22
Amastat you are *****ing about what tons of other carebears have been *****ing about for a long time, and you posted it in a forum that few people read.
Originally by: Golden Helmet
Buff or no buff, the Falcon is fine as it is right now. If you don't want to get jammed, start packing ECCM or bring your own Falcon \ BB \ Kitsune \ whateverthehellyouwant.
It is less about being jammed and more about the rook being turned into a useless piece of **** when the falcon was fine as is. It could cloak, run around, but had less chance of jamming half of a small gang. I use it regularly and it is stupid how much DPS it kills.
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.08 00:32:00 -
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Wu, this isn't about the fact that he decloaked a falcon as much as the sheer power of decimating an enemy gang simply because of one ship.
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.09 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Aadi Grox on 09/05/2008 01:24:26
edit: this is completely off topic about falcons being overpowered
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